CELIBACY

Recently Benedict XVI appointed Cardinal Hummes from Brazil to be the church’s top official in charge of priests.  About the time of his appointment Cardinal Hummes told the media that celibacy “is not a dogma” and that the Catholic church “can reflect” on the subject.   Why is it we hardly ever hear such positive remarks coming out of senior people in Rome?   And why do we never hear of the current practise whereby married Anglican priests with children can function as Roman Catholic married priests with children?

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    Paul Geraghty Says:

    Cardinal Hummes was immediately forced to “modify” his remarks – that is why we don’t hear more such comments. We seem to have exchanged the courageous Bishops of Vatican II for the “yes men” we have today and the pastoral office of Peter for the head of a police state!

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    SUZANNE Says:

    Police State?

    Uh, no one’s forcing anyone to be a Catholic or a Bishop.

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    Paul Geraghty Says:

    A police state is one in which you are obliged to toe the party line under threat of expulsion (or worse). It is a vivid description that, in myview, is an accurate one of some aspects of the hierarchical church.

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    jim Says:

    I see deep engendered Catholism as being caught not taught and I’m stuck with the moniker. My immersion into spirituality is way beyond any teachings but His message is received where I live – in my gut. What’s the message one asks? It is Jesus’ philosophy which includes, do no harm, help others, make sure my own house is in order, and every now and then overthrow some tables.

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    Barbara Says:

    One does not opt in or out of a Police State. A Police State evolves around one and entraps one when those in leadership roles prioritize structure and control over Gospel values.
    The wisest leaders lead by example and not by decree or fiat. The wisest leaders listen with the ear of their heart (cf Rule of St. Benedict) and use rule books only in the context of compassion. Jesus put his teaching into our guts, as Jim put it, through gentle suasion and example. He did not threaten to expel, but strove to include.

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    SUZANNE Says:

    A police state is one in which you are obliged to toe the party line under threat of expulsion (or worse).

    The Catholic Church is not a state.

    And, as that definition stands, it applies to a lot of organizations.

    A Police State evolves around one and entraps one when those in leadership roles prioritize structure and control over Gospel values.

    Structure and control are part of Gospel values. There are plenty of examples of “structure and control” in the Gospels. For instance, the very fact that Jesus appointed Apostles. That’s structure. Another example: Jesus gave authority to the apostles to excommunicate. That’s control.

    The wisest leaders lead by example and not by decree or fiat.

    Of course. But even leaders need decrees. It was done in the New Testament Church.

    Jesus put his teaching into our guts, as Jim put it, through gentle suasion and example. He did not threaten to expel, but strove to include.

    Jesus said that those who did not believe in him were condemned. He told the apostles that if a sinner didn’t repent after a couple of admonitions, he was to be treated like a tax collector. He called the Pharisees hypocrites. He stated that those who behaved immorally would be subject to eternal condemnation. Jesus overturned the moneychanger tables.

    He was occasionally harsh and politically correct.

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    Paul Geraghty Says:

    Suzanne – of course there has ot be structure and control The problem – as the film Hand of God – showed is when these no longer serve Gospel values but become used the same way they are used in any organisation – as ends in themselves or as denial of moral responsibility. Jesus said many things that can be quoted to prove many points but the one thing he was not was a control-freak. In fact he refused to use his power as a means of coercion leaving people the liberty to respond to it or not. That is Gospel power.


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